Barry and I were in the middle of building a house, and I was in the midst of having a nervous breakdown, because that's what you do when you build a house.
We are the yin and the yang of the creative process.
The main reason he wanted to be a recording artist was because it gives you much more freedom in your writing. You only have to please the artist and the artist is you so you can be more daring and experimental.
It was kind of like songwriter's boot camp. You had to produce. You had to produce fast. You had to learn.
